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	<title>Comments on: Catherine’s Vancouver is growing</title>
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		<title>By: Catherine Winters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine Winters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 22:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I wish -- I know how they must be built, but gathering the data would be a huge amount of work. (i thought about doing it myself, haha.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I wish — I know how they must be built, but gathering the data would be a huge amount of work. (i thought about doing it myself, haha.)</p>
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		<title>By: Tessa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 00:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the links to those transit maps of London. I guess you don&#039;t know if anyone&#039;s done anything similar for Vancouver or other Canadian cities? That would be awesome. 

And Vancouver partly won that race to the airport because of how close it is to downtown and other major destinations. Montreal, for example, would have to tunnel for many kilometres under a sparsly populated industrial area. 

It&#039;s also interesting, though, how much land use affects travel times and vice versa, and how it all affects how we live. Where I live downtown is a place to be avoided except during business hours, rather there is a large shopping plaza maybe six blocks away where people go (think wal-mart supercentre times three). It&#039;s a pain in the arse to get to by any mode other than car, but by car it&#039;s so easy and quick, but that&#039;s the dominant method here, all relating back to land use. Blargh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the links to those transit maps of London. I guess you don’t know if anyone’s done anything similar for Vancouver or other Canadian cities? That would be awesome. </p>
<p>And Vancouver partly won that race to the airport because of how close it is to downtown and other major destinations. Montreal, for example, would have to tunnel for many kilometres under a sparsly populated industrial area. </p>
<p>It’s also interesting, though, how much land use affects travel times and vice versa, and how it all affects how we live. Where I live downtown is a place to be avoided except during business hours, rather there is a large shopping plaza maybe six blocks away where people go (think wal-mart supercentre times three). It’s a pain in the arse to get to by any mode other than car, but by car it’s so easy and quick, but that’s the dominant method here, all relating back to land use. Blargh.</p>
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		<title>By: The Canada Line: my direct route to cheap crap. &#171; View from the 44</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Canada Line: my direct route to cheap crap. &#171; View from the 44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Posted by viewfromthe44 under Uncategorized Leave a Comment&#160;  Catherine Winters is thinking about the Canada Line and says, Since I tend not to go to Rich­mond or Oakridge Cen­tre much, I don’t see a lot of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Catherine Winters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine Winters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally, Briana. I&#039;m actually quite lucky in that I can take any one of three buses from the Main Street Station bus stop -- they all end up approximately equidistant to my house.

It&#039;s interesting how much it&#039;s apparent as a regular transit user that shorter distances are definitely not always faster. I note that if the Millennium Line is ever expanded along Broadway or 10th to UBC, it would &lt;em&gt;still&lt;/em&gt; be faster for you to get to Langara by transferring all the way at Waterfront instead of Commercial Drive &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; Cambie to the Canada Line. Likely not by much, to be sure, but that&#039;s going a few kilometres out of your way!

At this point in my scholastic career (One month, two days until I start!) deciding what I might do after I graduate Langara&#039;s Fine Arts program is pretty easy: There&#039;s Emily Carr and UBC. And not going to school. However, with SFU Contemporary Arts moving into Woodwards at Abbott and Hastings in the next year, that&#039;s now an option. It&#039;d be even faster for me to get to than Langara.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally, Briana. I’m actually quite lucky in that I can take any one of three buses from the Main Street Station bus stop — they all end up approximately equidistant to my house.</p>
<p>It’s interesting how much it’s apparent as a regular transit user that shorter distances are definitely not always faster. I note that if the Millennium Line is ever expanded along Broadway or 10th to UBC, it would <em>still</em> be faster for you to get to Langara by transferring all the way at Waterfront instead of Commercial Drive <em>and</em> Cambie to the Canada Line. Likely not by much, to be sure, but that’s going a few kilometres out of your way!</p>
<p>At this point in my scholastic career (One month, two days until I start!) deciding what I might do after I graduate Langara’s Fine Arts program is pretty easy: There’s Emily Carr and UBC. And not going to school. However, with SFU Contemporary Arts moving into Woodwards at Abbott and Hastings in the next year, that’s now an option. It’d be even faster for me to get to than Langara.</p>
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		<title>By: Briana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Briana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great points here. I&#039;m a lifelong transit user, and I definitely see how my travel patterns are shaped by the buses (and lack thereof). Anywhere not directly by a SkyTrain is not an appealing destination. I live in New West, so in the example you raise, the Waves would obviously be my choice! But even if I still lived downtown, taking one SkyTrain ride to Waves would be preferable to SkyTrain + bus (even a bus that comes as frequently as the Main St. bus). When I&#039;ve explored taking some college classes, I&#039;ve ruled out Langara in the past, but now that SkyTrain is there, I&#039;d definitely consider it!

Now if they&#039;d only knuckle down and build the long-promised Evergreen Line!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great points here. I’m a lifelong transit user, and I definitely see how my travel patterns are shaped by the buses (and lack thereof). Anywhere not directly by a SkyTrain is not an appealing destination. I live in New West, so in the example you raise, the Waves would obviously be my choice! But even if I still lived downtown, taking one SkyTrain ride to Waves would be preferable to SkyTrain + bus (even a bus that comes as frequently as the Main St. bus). When I’ve explored taking some college classes, I’ve ruled out Langara in the past, but now that SkyTrain is there, I’d definitely consider it!</p>
<p>Now if they’d only knuckle down and build the long-promised Evergreen Line!</p>
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